VA Drivers Beware -- VA issues first $2,000-plus ticket

[RedTrooper]

Stiff new fines (http://www.examiner.com/printa-809165~Va._issues_first_$2,000-plus_tickets.html?cid=tool-print-top)for Virginia’s drivers meant to raise funds for a transportation package approved in the spring went into effect Sunday across the state.

[Mike]

Defenders respond that the fee is voluntary and targets only bad drivers.

huh? So you can choose or is it the judges discretion to impose the fee?

[RedTrooper]

No, no, you can choose to obey the law or to risk the fine. If you obey the law then this has no impact on you. On the other hand, if you voluntarily choose to violate the law, then you deserve to pay.

In MD, the legislature considered rasing the gasoline tax. I suppose by the same logic, that too would be voluntary. You can choose to buy gas and pay the tax, or to not buy the gas and not drive.

BTW: Here is a list of the fees (http://www.courts.state.va.us/publications/hb_3202.pdf). I especially like 46.2-1077.01 OBSCENE VIDEO IMAGE VISIBLE OUTSIDE VEHICLE which is punishable by a fine of $300 per year for 3 years.

[shortyv6]

you for got the finwe of $100 for -8pionts on you lic. and $75 for each above that once a year until you fall below -8 points. oh yeah points stay on your record for 5 yrs... minimum fine of $500 in five years for tix that you got in 07 prior to july 1. i think we are getting screwed.

[amgraham]

Well, this leadfoot with (miraculously) a clean license is slowing down. It's not worth all that crap. Good thing the 4Runner isn't fast and my speedo reads 5mph too fast :P

[BeaterToyota]

I think I heard about this law somewhere before. Oh yeah, here: http://www.midatlanticttora.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1520

[RedTrooper]

Sorry Beater. I just read it in the News today and wanted to make sure everyone was aware of it.

[BeaterToyota]

It's all good. I was just f'in around.

[RedTrooper]

When I read the article, I was shocked. I don't get to VA much except for GWNF. But I wanted to alert people, so I posted on several sites. I probably should have looked to see if someone else had started a thread but I was in a rush.

In MD, they are taking a different approach. They are trying to raise the gas tax. Lovely.

I don't know which is better; huge fines which I am sure will be difficult to avoid or higher gas prices which are impossible to avoid.

[dtrailtaco]

its crazy how how va residents get it and out of state drivers dont, hmm i might have to look into gettin a liscense in another state :D along with tags

[94krawler]

its crazy how how va residents get it and out of state drivers dont, hmm i might have to look into gettin a liscense in another state :D along with tags


We get alot of people from NJ getting their liscence's in PA and getting a PO box here and registering their cars here. The insurance drop is well worth it from what they say.

[RedTrooper]

its crazy how how va residents get it and out of state drivers dont, hmm i might have to look into gettin a liscense in another state :D along with tags


We get alot of people from NJ getting their liscence's in PA and getting a PO box here and registering their cars here. The insurance drop is well worth it from what they say.
I think that the sales tax may be lower there also. In MD, the police go into the neighborhoods to look for out of state plates. Unless you can prove that you are in the military or a student, MD makes you pay MD sales tax to register the vehicle in the state, even if you have owned it for years.

[shortyv6]

texas and florida really dont care and have little or no tax on registered vecihles.......

[94krawler]

its crazy how how va residents get it and out of state drivers dont, hmm i might have to look into gettin a liscense in another state :D along with tags


We get alot of people from NJ getting their liscence's in PA and getting a PO box here and registering their cars here. The insurance drop is well worth it from what they say.
I think that the sales tax may be lower there also. In MD, the police go into the neighborhoods to look for out of state plates. Unless you can prove that you are in the military or a student, MD makes you pay MD sales tax to register the vehicle in the state, even if you have owned it for years.


Um your not trying to say they charge you sales tax for a vehicle bought else where are you? Cause thats illegal as it gets.

[RedTrooper]

Um your not trying to say they charge you sales tax for a vehicle bought else where are you? Cause thats illegal as it gets.
I am saying that they make you pay the tax regardless of when and where you bought the vehicle! If you move from PA to MD, you will have to pay the tax of 5% of the value of each vehicle to register it in MD. Doesn't matter that you have had them for years. It is the same for boats, BTW.

[shortyv6]

Um your not trying to say they charge you sales tax for a vehicle bought else where are you? Cause thats illegal as it gets.
I am saying that they make you pay the tax regardless of when and where you bought the vehicle! If you move from PA to MD, you will have to pay the tax of 5% of the value of each vehicle to register it in MD. Doesn't matter that you have had them for years. It is the same for boats, BTW.thats what all these fines are about. getting rid of the "personal property tax" in VA. you have to pay a percentage og the value of your vehicle to the county its registered in. aka sales tax every year for a vehicle youve paid sales tax on when you bought it.

[94krawler]

Um your not trying to say they charge you sales tax for a vehicle bought else where are you? Cause thats illegal as it gets.
I am saying that they make you pay the tax regardless of when and where you bought the vehicle! If you move from PA to MD, you will have to pay the tax of 5% of the value of each vehicle to register it in MD. Doesn't matter that you have had them for years. It is the same for boats, BTW.


:lol: And you pay them 8O Man and people say I'm dumb cause I'm from PA :lol:

[BeaterToyota]

Fawkin taxes and tyranny. Time for revolution? It seems like we just celebrated one recently. :smt017

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[PrezidentRedz]

Totally Sux..

[bradrob82]

last time i got a ticket speeding on Rte 7 outside of berryville i thought my ticket was $$$ now they are just outrageous! I sure am glad i live in West Virginia!!

[KnuckleHead]

And the VA cops are out in full force too. I just came up 95 yesterday from N.C. and they were everywhere. I guess they didn't pay attention to me because of DE tags. :D

sux to be you guys.

[88rnr86up]

I just drove from Stafford to Petersburg about 90 miles
saw a car pull over a bout ever 5 miles or so
both ways

[shortyv6]

beaters right....

a few lawyers in fairfax area are fighting this already. the press release said something about how willing they are to take this to the fed supreme court.


maybe theres hope