Diesel Prices

[locknload]

Well this morning I see diesel is $4.25 a gallon, nice. And so my truck sits in the driveway. I've been reading up a bit and it seems there are a couple factors contibuting to this crude rise (pun intended).

1. Ultra low sulphur diesel refining costs are much higher.
2. Basic supply and demand.

The world now uses more diesel fuel than unleaded. China and India using more trucks and buses and Europe using diesel in a high percentage of their cars. America is the only country where our most widely used vehicles are using unleaded gas, so yes the rest of the world affects our prices. I'm sure we'll see $5.00/gal by the summer. Anyone looking for an PowerStroke?

Jason, this makes you argument for a gasser tow rig a little more convincing now doesn't it?

[bradrob82]

Mike,

Thats the same reason my diesel sits in the driveway. If i fill my truck up from empty at current diesel prices in Inwood i would spend $158 and eventhough i get 14-18 mpg it still doesnt last long. I guess till prices go down i will just keep starting it up and running it everyonce in a while.

[Mike]

Pretty much why I've been considering either going back to wheeling ATVs or build an ultra-light rig that can be towed by a light duty truck or SUV (buggy in the 2500-3000 lb range).

This hobby just gets more and more expensive.

[dtrailtaco]

im glad i got this light reg. cab beater then:D my pops 1500 cheby pulled it fine on the way back from PA.


but a new cheby with the active fuel management that shuts off cylinders would make a good tow rig for a light wheelin rig. has power to tow and when power isnt needed it gets about 23-24mpg i think

[Littletoy]

I feel your pain. My diesel has been parked for a few weeks now. My wheeling rig is now my DD. Sucks ass. Nothing like paying $115 for a fill up.

[94krawler]

Pretty much why I've been considering either going back to wheeling ATVs or build an ultra-light rig that can be towed by a light duty truck or SUV (buggy in the 2500-3000 lb range).

This hobby just gets more and more expensive.



My old setup weighed in at 2500+2200 trailer. I towed it with my ram without issue's. My new rig weighs 4000 stripped+2200 for trailer. I still tow with the same rig. Mileage change was barely noticable it stuggles a bit more on hills now but nothing to make me stop using it and with gear I'm actually a bit over rated tow capacity.

My friend Daniel pulls a S-cab and trailer with his Taco. He's towed from delaware to tellico with out issue's. Heck Vangaurd on PBB tows his buggy with a Taco. He towed from Nc area up here not that long ago.


To think 2 years ago my friend was ragging me for not towing with a deisel. Now his is gone....

FYI I found if I run sheetz fuel I get 2MPG BETTER in my truck over anything else:eek: At least around town and to work. Truck feels like it has more balls as well:cool:

[Ted]

Pretty much why I've been considering either going back to wheeling ATVs or build an ultra-light rig that can be towed by a light duty truck or SUV (buggy in the 2500-3000 lb range).

This hobby just gets more and more expensive.

The high prices kind of put a damper on the road tips and such. The sport is getting expensive.

[BeaterToyota]

Jason, this makes you argument for a gasser tow rig a little more convincing now doesn't it?
Yep. I just got home 45 minutes ago from test driving a 2002 Reg. Cab Tundra 4x4. It's at a used car lot in FFX. They're asking $8995 for it. I can get that for about $88 per month (with a decent down payment), and then I can afford the extra gas it would use to commute in. It has a hitch on it, and old school 4 pin wiring, but setting it up with a 7 pin couldn't be too hard.

I'm thinking about it still. It needs tires, and it was obviously a work truck; the bed liner is covered in paint/shit. No big deal, just remove the liner.

[Stinson]

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/car/585332065.html

[Stinson]

same truck?

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/car/571068228.html

[Stinson]

4 door for cheap

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/car/610922879.html

[Stinson]

one more nice one

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/car/594411040.html

[BeaterToyota]

Ideally I'd get an '03 or newer; they had fixed the front brake problems by then and I think they're all prewired for a brake controller.

Here's the one I looked at tonight. I might think it over and go back on Friday. We'll see:
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=78&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7cE-%7cM-_47_%7cB-12000%7cD-_3238_%7cN-N%7cR-50%7cI-1%7cP-PRICE+descending%7cQ-descending%7cZ-20137&aff=national&paId=135449103&recnum=8&leadExists=true

[Stinson]

not a bad truck.....even though its not extended cab it still has more space than what u have now. What are the trannies like in those things?

[BeaterToyota]

It's funny how small those trucks are. The 1st gen Tundra has the same wheelbase (within and inch) of the new extended or double cab Tacos. They're about the same width also. Even so, that regular cab had some storage space behind the seats, and the seat backs reclined decently.

They have a 4spd auto, column shifter. Apparently they do alright if you tow in third (overdrive turned off). They come with a tranny cooler, and that could be upgraded I'm sure. 2005's got a 5 speed auto and more horsepower.

[kajo]

... or build an ultra-light rig that can be towed by a light duty truck or SUV (buggy in the 2500-3000 lb range).

This hobby just gets more and more expensive.


I think that is the route I will go when I return. I am thinking of keeping my Tacoma as a towrig. It can tow 5,000 lbs. If I build a vehicle under 3,000 pounds and build a 1,200 pound trailer I should be good to go even if one of the 2 ends up coming in a little over weight.

[bradrob82]

Jason, my dad has a 02 tundra access cab with the 4.7 and auto tranny, and he gets 17 mpg cruising around town and in the low 20's going to the beach. I have towed my 18' trailer with our john deere diesel 4x4 tractor on it numerous times and hauled hay with it, and it has suprised me on how good it does. my $.02, go for it!!

[Eric_N]

I vote go for a Tundra also. Hell, the master tech I used to work at Toyota with had one and he had over 200,000 hard miles on it before a drunk driver hit it at his townhome and totalled it. He snow plowed all of Darcars lots in Silverspring, and was constantly doing 80+ down the highway, and never did anything to it besides maintenance (which he rarely did).

[BlueX]

love those Tundra's Jason...I say go for it
can't go wrong w/ a Toyota

[Donkey]

Problem is the transmission. It will do it for awhile. Mike's really didn't like towing to much.

[locknload]

Problem is the transmission. It will do it for awhile. Mike's really didn't like towing to much.

Speaking of towing, how much for your trailer? You're not using it :flipoff:.

[bradrob82]

diesel prices in winchester are down $0.08 this morning when i came through to go to work :D we will see how it goes i guess

[locknload]

diesel prices in winchester are down $0.08 this morning when i came through to go to work :D we will see how it goes i guess
Wohoooooo!!

[BeaterToyota]

Speaking of towing, how much for your trailer? You're not using it :flipoff:.
I was thinking the same thing. :D

[Donkey]

Speaking of towing, how much for your trailer? You're not using it :flipoff:.


I traded my trailor for a bigger one. I will be using it alot.

[locknload]

I traded my sailor for a bigger one. I will be using him alot.

Fixed it for ya. :flipoff: